Fo For more articles on computer dreams see: Computer
Dreams, Electric Dreams 7(3) March 2000 and Computers
in Dreams, Electric Dreams 6(8), Aug 1999 and (2000 July). The
changing (inter)face of dream texts. Electric Dreams 7(7)
Many theories have traveled the road between
dream life and waking life in an attempt to appropriate for themselves the
territory of both. The extreme views move from the notion that dreams just
reflect concerns in waking life, to the other pole that feels that waking life
just being a pale refection of the Dream Time. One says we build houses, and
then dream about them, the other says we want and dream about houses and then
reconstruct them.
More inclusive conceptualizations produce a notion of dynamic interplay
between the dream world and the waking world. We build houses and dream about
them, but we also dream about houses and construct them. The question of whether
the house was first dreamt or built is long lost. There is a dynamic between the
two with co-create one another. Further, dream houses function and operate in
many other ways in dreams than plans for later waking-life constructions. That
is, they exist for the existential pleasure (or horror) of living in them in the
dream, they bring together novel experiences, thoughts and feelings, they
contextualize emotions, and operate in countless other ways. And upon waking,
the dream house is not just something to replicate either. The dream house image
may be captured for a journal, for a discussion, for an interpretation, an art
piece, for a theory, for food for another dream. In its form as a nightmare or
divine inspiration we see that the dream produces connections in the waking
world even when we don't have an interest in the dream acting this way. A
cybernetic feedback system develops between waking and dreaming life.
Interactively dynamic and mutually productive images, actions and forces emerge.
Biological and cultural codes and objects and trends change and are re-absorbed
by the dream-world, and then flow again upon the body of the earth, the body of
the social, the body of the gods.
Here, at the beginning of the twenty-first century, the most dynamic cultural
object and trend is the digital revolution. For many people this simply means
that there are a lot more computers in our lives. Others feel there is a
fundamental paradigm shift occurring. Either way, computer dreams are on the
rise. As I have written about before [see Wilkerson (2000 July). Digital
Dreaming Series: Computer Dreams II : The changing (inter)face of dream texts.
Electric Dreams 7(7). ; Wilkerson (2000 March) Digital Dreams: The changing (inter)face
of dreams in the twenty-first century. Electric Dreams 7(3). ; and Wilkerson
(1999 Aug) Computers in Dreams, Electric Dreams 6(8) ] whether you believe that
these dreams simply reflect the rising concern and involvement with computers
during our waking life or feel that they are a symbolic trail to our innermost
self and beyond now mediated by binary metaphors, the information age and its
technologically mediated communications now increasingly inhabit our dreamscapes
and are a part of our inner dreamworld. Just as when we shifted in the last
century from dreams of horses and carriages to automobiles and interstates, the
shift to computer screens and virtual reality have changed the psychological
landscape and created a whole new set of images through which we can see our
lives. What does it all signify and how to we give it meaning? Like the digital
revolution itself, there is the continual question: Is the computer just another
en-slaving machine we are adding to our collection of cultural accumulations or
a major paradigm shift in human consciousness?
I would like to suggest that the burden of answering this question has
shifted from a natural position to a constructed one, and that dreamwork can be
part of the positive construction. While humankind has always had to struggle
with the creation of meaning and value, it has never been so hard as it is in
the early 21st century. Older cultures offer rich systems of meaning and value
for their participants and through rituals of initiation they move from one
level of meaning into another. But our culture (Western capital culture) absorbs
all other cultures. As older cultures encounter us, they either have to run into
the wilderness and hide or watch their traditions fade away as the members of
the tribe begin to acquire radios and guns and tennis shoes. Though it may only
be a consolation prize for us, the destruction of older values has opened the
door for new worlds of our choosing. This doesn't mean choosing anything.
Because we live in a world of other individuals and souls, other natural and
unnatural processes, choosing becomes an art that creatively includes the
desires of others as well as our own desires.
From the perspective of choice, we participate in giving meaning to things.
That is, by seeing meaning and value as something that is partially given and
partially received, we establish a relationship with the Other and negotiate a
world where the meaning is neither forced upon us, nor totally constructed by
us. We co-create with the universe. This is the curse and blessing of freedom.
Carl Jung suggested that the early philosopher-scientists, the alchemists,
were engaged in an investigation of categories of mind-body-spirit that today
have been so broken up and divided that they have little sense of wholeness and
hardly get any cross fertilization from other fields. Spiritual people study
spirit, mechanics study mechanical things and biologists study biological
things. Not for the alchemist. They read all aspects of the imagination, psyche
and matter for clues to discovering the only secret worth knowing, the
philosopher's stone. Materialists thought this exploration was simply a foolish
path of greedy people to find ways to make gold. But the true alchemist was more
interested in the transmutation of something quite fantastic.. Changing lead to
gold was simply a test of the philosopher's stone. The real event was the secret
of changing base materials into finer substances.
We have a similar task in exploring and making meaning out of our soulless
machines in our dreams and in our lives. These machines inhabit our lives more
and more, and mediate our experience more and more. Without really knowing what
is going on, we push forward, giving meaning to things and allowing them to
reveal their significance to us. Future generations will look back on us as
alchemists, mixing dreams, computers, society, self and spirit. As Jung noted,
this innocence is needed to see the big things. That is, we throw all our
expectations and hopes and desire into these new things, and by doing so, we get
to see the deep imagination that is reflected in these projections on matter.
Technology becomes the mirror of our soul, and we have a chance to encounter and
give meaning to it before its significance is over-determined or abandoned as
something absent.
To explore these notions, the Digital Dreaming Project was launched in August
of 1999. The first part of this project involves the collection of dreams about
computers, the Internet and peripheral devices and issues. During the first part
of the collection phase, Electric Dreams allowed dreams to be sent in by the
dreamers via requests on the Electric Dreams e-zine, on usenet newsgroups and
through direct solicitation from public dreamers and dream journals online, such
as the dreambank.net project and personal dream journals. The Digital Dreaming
Project has also allied itself with the DreamRegistry project, and independently
funded project to establish a public repository and searchable data for dreams.
The unique part of the DreamRegistry project is that unlike other online dream
databases, the DreamRegistry will allow communications between other databases,
thereby allowing independent collection sites to exist, but sharing the data
that is common to them. Some independent databases may be established as
vertical portals, interested only in collecting nightmares or spiritual dreams.
The DreamRegistry will allow these sites to maintain their identity and yet
share data at the same time.
The following dreams were either sent in to Electric Dreams or requested from
Web site from August 2000 through October 2000. The names have been changed
except were the dreamers have explicitly requested their names to be kept with
their dreams. Note that some people sent in collections while others sent
individual dreams.
If you would like to send in a dream about computers, you can send them
directly to Richard Wilkerson at rcwilk@dreamgate.com or enter them anonymously
at http://www.dreamgate.com/dream/temple
Digital Dreams - August 2000 to October 2000
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Depressing Message
From: V.
i am at my computer talking to some one. I don't know who it is or what the
conversation is about. but all of a sudden they tell me something and i get
really depressed. in the end i commit suicide Reprinted with permission of the
Dream Chimney: http://dreamchimney.com/
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Dee's Computer Dreams Collection from 6-06-00 to 7-02-00
6-6-00 - DREAM - I was working on a web page and went to get a couple links
for it and I thought I was really doing this so that when I woke up, I was
surprised I was laying in bed.
I can't remember now what it was about though in the dream I thought it was a
great idea.
xxx
6-11-00 - DREAM - I was searching for words about 'love' on the computer. But it
wasn't just about love, it was about 'pure love' I used these words: 'love',
'welcome', 'masters', 'It To', 'Iyt To', 'Set To'. (These might not be exact
spelling) They were the names of three masters who worked together. In the
search, I placed all the words in a row with no marks between them.
xxx
6-13-00 - DREAM - (I had this dream at least 7 times during the night)
This was a web page about mass landing of UFOs. There are absolutely no
details, only whiteness on whiteness. I put this list on a different web page
each time so that everyone would know about it. The 2nd last time I had the
dream, I saw the year 2029. The last time I had it, I saw the number 432.
I feel absolutely exhausted like I was awake all night making sure the work
got done ... basically that's exactly what I did.
xxx
6-16-00 - DREAM - Part lucid - I was seeing an electronic screen that had boxes
where words would appear. They would be either positive or negative words. I
would recognize the word, react positively or negatively to it and move onto the
next one. I don't know where this was or what it was for.
When I woke up from this, I realized that I had dreamed that a long time and
wanted a people dream, so went back to sleep on purpose.
xxx
6-21-00 - DREAM - I was looking at a web page with links to sites that were
about the environment. The links were in red and blue and my attention was drawn
to a specific site t look at. (I can't remember what it was and don't think I
could actually read it either)
NOTE: I have a environmental database page, but not a page specifically with
news about the environment. http://www.greatdreams.com/environ.htm
xxx
6-26-00 - DREAMS - I was working on web pages about crop circles and UFOs ...
these were all links - database - no pictures
xxx
6-28-00 - THREE DREAMS - These were 3 separate computer screen dreams in which I
was being tested. The tests were all about myself and listing and matching sets
of attributes and abilities.
Vxxx
7-2-00 - NOTE: I was watching a 5 hour long anniversary show on TV about the
Jackson 5 and Michael Jackson. - I went to sleep to take a nap during the show
and dreamed I was making a web page about the biography of the Jackson 5. As
soon after I realized that the movie was still on when I woke up that I had
dreamed what was still on TV, I decided to forget the dream and went back to
sleep.
DREAM 2: I dreamed I was making a web page about the biography of Art Bell. I
placed his name within a box and did a page about him. After I published the
page I got a phone call from a woman who asked me how it was that I published
Art Bell's phone number. I told her I only published what was already available
to the public.
I then went across the street where Art Bell lived and when I knocked on the
door and there was no answer, I opened the door and went inside and found George
Burns and Art Bell laying on the floor ... dead drunk ... (passed out) I woke
them up and they thanked me for caring about them. They came home with me across
the street and we talked a bit. When they left together, George Burns was
smoking his cigar and he was walking arm and arm around each other's shoulders
with Art Bell. The last thing Art said to me was that I should come across the
street again in the morning to make sure they were all right. I agreed that I
would come and check on them again.
I closed my door and saw that my front door was all glass and the white lace
curtains were pulled aside and that everyone could see inside my house. I put
the key into the lock and decided to leave the key in the door because then
nobody can put a key in from the outside. I walked back towards my computer and
saw that the biography on Art Bell wasn't yet complete because his life wasn't
yet over.
NOTE: Joe reminded me that George Burns played the part of God in the movie
'OH GOD'.
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"XXX Chips "
By Tony
August 2000
Once I dreamt I was inside this computer and the chips were women trying to grab
me. It was kind of erotic except that they looked more or less like robots. They
finally got a hold of me, took off my shoes and connected me to the motherboard.
I started screaming, it was painful and then...I woke up.
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"RPG Game"
by DBSboy
June 94
Dream
a group of fighters. A monster attacks, one of our members were hurt and the
monster fled.
We found a peasant house and the woman living there invited us to stay there
for the night. While we walked around the village, I saw a statue of the
monster, which attacked us. The lady explained to us that the monsters, each
with its own area, will not go near others of their own kind. The same night we
gathered and discussed how to rid the monsters, and one thing we decided was to
drive a car. I was the one chosen to drive. I sat in the car and started it (In
real life I didn't know how to drive). The car swung left and right. I felt
dizzy and finally I dropped out of the car, lying on the ground. A girl with a
group of guys came by and said I was a girl(I am a guy), I fell unconscious
before I could respond. The next thing I know I was walking in a hallway, and a
best friend of mine came. He was very angry and punched me in my stomach. I
punched him in return. He said he was told that I was flirting with his
girlfriend (the girl I saw before I fell unconscious, in real life we never met
each other). I explained to him what I wasn't flirting with her, and in fact I
didn't know she is his girlfriend. He then went away. I followed him to a room
and he was using the computer. I kept walking to the next room and his
girlfriend sleeping in bed, that's when I first noticed she was very
beautiful(as he told me in real life). That's the end of my dream.
Comments by Dreamer this is a dream long time ago, but I still remember it
clearly, so I thought I might share it with other people.
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"Obsession"
by Maha
7/15/2000 evening (awoke at 9 30 pm)
I was a part of a large community, living together in a complex of buildings
and living quarters, on massive acreage. One of the buildings was a training
facility, for combat, stealth, operations of various sorts with a feeling of
anti-government. Missions were planned and trained for, scenarios played out and
there was a certain progression that everyone was required to follow even if
they weren't there to go into the field, even if their skills were not in that
area.
I had a vision problem and wore glasses and it bothered me terribly. (In
waking life I do wear glasses, my recent difficulty seeing has been very
distressful, and my father has been needing cataract surgery for some months and
I have neglected to take him for it.) I knew it would affect my performance in a
certain test course I would be having to go through and I thought it unfair and
was afraid I would be mis-judged based on that, that it wouldn't be taken into
consideration and I was distressed about it. I was pacing back and forth in
front of the counter, waiting for my turn.
I had an object of desire... a man who kept appearing as two different
people: a boy (now grown as the man) who I had known in my childhood (close
family friend, it was always joked that we would grow up and marry, we remain in
occasional touch) and my now companion who came here to live with me because I
need help with certain things (I am also married - 30 years - and have 5 grown
children). In this place (waiting for my test) he was the grown boy.
In being my object of desire, I was obsessed, he was on my mind constantly. I
worried about everything to do with him/us. I was afraid I was going to scare
him away with my intense nature, everything from my facial expressions to
anything I said to him. We were dating casually, but I suspected he knew the
intensity of the feeling I had for him and it was a constant stressor.
On the other side of the counter where I was waiting to take my test, there
were divided areas each consisting of 4 work stations. They were defined as
being either computer, person only, empty, or other types. The test consisted of
standing at the end of the counter and bending over to look through a one-eye
view. The perspective was difficult and I had to go from the end forward and
name each station. Memory played a definite role in my answers and I said so. He
said that was alright and to not be distressed by my poor vision but to do the
best I could.
I completed the test and wanted to stay with him, but he ushered me out and
said that I had things to do, others to attend to and that he would see me
later. I went back to the main house to help with certain things... preparing
dinner, seeing visitors off, trying to help my mother who had just moved into
the complex and was still unpacking.
People were milling around, making plans for dinner and what to do
afterwards, Dark was falling and there was no central lighting system and we all
knew that we would have to either light torches and candles or accept the
darkness. There were certain activities planned that I did not want to
participate in but felt pressured and obligated to do so. It remained dark as no
one lit anything and I was glad, thinking I would be able to slip away unseen. I
wanted to think about the object of my obsession.
I slipped away from the activities but was accosted in the kitchen by a young
girl who wanted me to help her make fried onion rings. I knew that would take
time and I wanted to avoid it so I sent her on an errand and then put the bowl
outside the door, making it difficult for her to find. Another person came in
and looked disheveled and I asked her what she was doing and where she was
going. She took me to another room and said that some of them were going away
for the summer and did I want to go? I said no, I couldn't bear the thought of
being separated from "him". They were doing some shooting routines and
I became enraged, took a gun from one of them and aimed it at the tv screen
which was showing Maury Povich. I hit him in the forehead right between the eyes
and the picture froze like that, with a smile on his face.
They were horrified and looked at me as if i had done a truly terrible thing and
they started to say how unlike me that was, how out of character. I became even
more distressed and threw (I typed "through" and then corrected it
here...) the gun down in horror and ran from the room. I was confronted by a
group who were distraught over an accident, it turned out that I had been riding
a horse with my father who was incapable of staying on by himself. When I had
slipped off, he had fallen and was hurt, needing to go to the hospital.
I called the VA and tired to explain things, but they were far away and not
helpful They said they knew him and that he was just acting. I argued but they
were not receptive. (In waking life my father has been ill, going down hill and
I have neglected my responsibility to get him to a doctor.) I finally threw the
phone down and went to try and get ready, showered, looked frantically for
something to wear as I had outgrown most of my clothes (gained weight). I found
a closet with some of my older "fat clothes" and tired to find
something without much success and had to settle for something I didn't like.
My mother came out of the other area and confronted me in some distress,
showing me a bracelet that was mine. She asked me had I given it to HIM and I
said it was none of her business, that it was mine. If I wanted to give it away
I would, that it had in fact been given to me by soandso (a former lover). She
was very upset and then HE walked in and I was upset to think that he might
think our family was unstable and undesirable in terms of getting involved with
on any personal level. He walked the other way and I followed him and he turned
around and said for me to not worry.
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"Computer Dreams"
by Danielle
Jan-Mar 2000 various times
All I would see in my dreams were the screen of the computer. The words were
in bright colors and I heard voices from voice chat. I was always in the
pregnancy chat room(I was in my third trimester of pregnancy at the time). I
would ask questions in the room about pregnancy and talk about baby names and
labor stories. Mostly when I was having these dreams it was with the regulars
that came into that room. I would time out with my ISP and that is usually when
I awoke.
Comments by Dreamer I would often wake my mother from talking in my sleep and
she said that I would move my hands as if typing. I was on bed-rest my last
trimester and I had a laptop in which I spent most of the day in the pregnancy
chat room. The rest of the day I was chatting in my sleep.
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"Cut and Paste"
Date: Tue, 01 Aug 2000
From: Kouro
I very readily have "cut and paste" imagery in my dreams. Very
often I have dream worries that there is something on my invisible clipboard
that I have previously cut, that I am in danger of forgetting about, that I need
to paste somewhere before it gets lost.
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"From within the Womb of a Dream"
by Jude
Sunday, February 13, 2000
dreams liberate our evolving psyches from the demons imprisoning our inner
souls…haunted emotions emanating from deep within the core of our beings, are
awarded the opportunity to become unrestrained… scents of negative thought
dissolve from the patterns of past lifetimes and transform into familiar
fragrances of future conquests…
as i'm in the dreamscape, when the Now is manifest, all elements of my
psychological nature, are presented and viewed with lucid candor…
the beasts residing in the synapses of my "unconscious" thought,
transmute into saviors of introspection…molecules of motion shift
the blueprint skin surrounding my mind, as to shed the remnants of past
lifetimes and flow into the movement of the present dream cycle…
well the other night, I had dream both revelatory as well as cryptic. it was
truly enticing, in the sense that I was able to consciously "bend" or
"alter" the environment and objects within the dream. the experience
was a purging of my individual psyche and an internal hunger to evolve the world
i'm presently residing in…
i'm focusing my psychic energy into the core of my dreams by redirecting the
road i'm traveling on at that moment…good and evil, black and white, angelic
and demonic forms, are the quintessential archetypes hidden within our
collective thought…the blending or altering of the polar realities, or
balancing the forces of creation, comprise the realm of Abraxas…the world of
shadows become illuminating. Andre Breton surmised, "In the depths of our
minds conceal strange forces capable of augmenting or conquering those on the
surface. It is our greatest interest to capture them." to paraphrase
Eckhart, all the devils are really angels just waiting to set you free…
i'm outside a mansion seemingly under reconstruction under renovation…it's
bedside a dirt road obscured by overgrown shrubs and the corners of the roof are
dripping with blood…there's surreal blue hues pulsating from within the
windows accompanied by thunderous taunts of invitation…something is luring me
to enter…the "front door is locked but open," says a sign on the
door breathing in and out like rubber…I decide to pass through the door by
osmosis, becoming transparent…rays of sunlight are smashing against the glass
roof above me and the light is broken down into a spectrum…as I stare into the
colors, there are loud voices coming from another room, actually sounds like
singing, reminding me of the mythological Sirens…I'm standing on a floor of
earth, where I notice, next to a fireplace are these small Gothic creatures
dancing close to the flames; chanting songs to a "magic-sun animal…"
their voices are incredible human.
I begin to realize, I'm in my mind's mansion where all the elements of my
being are housed…I sense something is about to unravel…I enter another room
where I notice a middle-aged woman sitting in a large wooden chair, on a
neon-green seat…I'm reminded of the Museum of Natural History, for there's
knight armor scattered all about and the chair reminds me of Louie the 15th…the
woman is dressed in neo-modern clothing…she's sitting at the head of a long
table mixing potions and reading labels…there's old books, glass flasks, lit
candles and bottles of day-glo powders and solutions strewn about the table…as
I approach her, I notice the table has an inscription in the center, shaped like
a triangle, endowed with what appears to be extraterrestrial hieroglyphics…
she peers over to me with a soothing smile and winks as if she's trying to
hint at something…suddenly, there's loud thumping on the walls as though
someone or something wants to enter but there's no doors…everything is now in
slow-motion, even the sun's rays piercing through the spotted ceiling…I begin
to become a bit overwhelmed by the dense mist of apprehensive emotion
reverberating about this room as an abrupt gust of wind pins me to the floor and
as I look upon the smile of the woman, I laugh and exclaim "what a wild
dream!"
while on the floor, I notice a vanity mirror across from me…I'm sideways on
the floor and as I look into the mirror, I see my reflection shift into a myriad
of faces…I am now in the skeleton of my psyche, in the membrane of my
collective memory…facets of my selves are free-flowing and I know I'm dreaming
and so attempt to rearrange the situation as I lay down on my back…I want to
be cooled off for I'm sweating (sweating a trial of power…) I'm successful for
I now find myself in a large pool, floating on a cushion of electrical wire…
I see the woman again, now sitting in a lounge chair by the side of the pool,
knitting a very large sweater with hypodermic needles…she looks at me and
mentions "I can still feel you inside my womb." Suddenly, I'm
transported next to a waterfall inside the middle of the NY Botanical Gardens…I
can hear opera, sounds like Mari Calles, echoing from the spacious Orchard
Garden…I lie down on the grass and whip out my cell phone and begin speaking
to a female voice who begins to give me instructions on how to download the
"spiritual software" needed to make my "dream connections clear
and free of distortion…"
I begin to explain that this may be difficult because I'm going to Manhattan
to get to the Holland Tunnel and there may be dead zones in the tunnel…she
laughs and says, "on my phone there is no dead time." she then adds,
"a dream is what you allow it to be…"
I'm back at the pool…I see the woman standing beside a computer where she
suggests "to look into the programming and when you access a disk-like
object, switch to the topic you find most attractive…the code to the infinite
structure of form…the formula waiting to be encoded."
She points to the computer under a sun-umbrella by the side of the pool…as
I look into the monitor, I notice a gray circle with bold black words stating to
"click here for lucid dreaming and here for prophecy…"
As I look back to her, she's gone…there's a virtual hand in the air with long
rainbow-painted nails pointing at the screen where it now prompts to
"download dreams…"
At this point, I'm a bit overwhelmed by the clarity and vivid impressions
unfolding…I type into the computer {c:setup/deadzone} to see if I get a
response from my mother who died at childbirth…(maybe this is the woman I'm
seeing in my dream?…on the monitor I see "download failure try
again." This time I type in {c:setup/oversoul}…the response is
affirmative…"ENTER"…enter where I ask myself? "enter
everywhere…" it responds without my typing anything into it, sort of like
mental telepathy with a computer;)…I look at the computer and command it to
transform into a brain and it does so! Pulsating with an orange glow…the brain
commands me to look to the sky…a female voice then asks me to enter and I
begin to realize I'm being reborn from the womb of this dream…
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"Mutual Mud"
by Ken
September 2000
I have a lot of dreams, some of which relate clearly to technology, others
less so. Here's an interesting one. I was first exposed to the Internet my first
year in college (93), and began mudding (IgorMud, specifically) the second
semester. I played a lot at the time, a kind of mini-connectivity addiction. A
few friends discovered it at the same time, played similar amounts. Each of us
(I can think of 3 people) had dreams in which we were navigating terrain in a
sort of segmented fashion, parallel to the 'east','enter' type commands of the
mud. Our terrains differed, as did events within the dream itself, but we all
had several dreams in which the dream progresses room by room, which was an odd
experience, and a sure sign that we were addicted enough and playing enough that
some of our cognitive pathways were getting fused. I don't remember much details
about the dreams themselves other than their segmented style... still, I hope
its useful to you. Who knows, maybe others share similar experiences?
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"Query Dreams"
October 2000
Michael
I have a lot.(of computer dreams) Especially when I am designing something on
ACCESS and I get stuck with a Query.
I often dream of the answer .
Do not write this of as weird as it has happened 5-6 times and I am getting
to rely on it+ACE-
By the way I am a Shrink myself with Dynamic Orientation and there is no
Freudian overlays or underlays in the dreams.
I do think that the PC can be a tool for creativity as can internet as a whole.
I am sorry I have no specific recall of a dream other than to say if they are
there.
I will try keep your address and if another one comes along you will get it.
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"Too much Quake"
by SS,
September, 2000
"R<> Are you having computer dreams?
"R<> I am collecting dreams, dreams you have during sleep, of
computers and
"R<> Internet related issues and topics.
Only if I've played too much Quake 2 before going to bed.
Sounds facetious, but it's not. The scenes - though not usually the violence
- will form backdrops to my dreams. Wierd, eh?
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"Dreaming in Code"
by Robyn
September, 2000
being a techie i have computer dreams alot - whenever i start a new job i
dream in code for a while - the whole dream consists of code scrolling on a
black screen - not much to it - but kinda disturbing. I've also had dreams where
parts of my computer were missing. One in particular my company kept making my
monitor smaller and smaller until i had no monitor but i was still expected to
do my job.
thats all - hope it helps.
[Note: stan requests that his name be kept with his dreams]
richard,
i saw your posted questionaire about computers in dreams. this dream not only
has one of my old apple2 computers in it, i try to use it in my dream
to record part of the dream into my dream log. hence the starting sentence and
probably a few more after that were actually composed while i was still asleep
but almost awaking.
stan kulikowski ii <stankuli@pcola.gulf.net>
DATE : 29 aug 2000 06:13
DREAM : the black horse recursion
=( yesterday i was rather tired after only two lectures on javascript and an
exam review. when i got home, i took a short nap then spent the evening just
vegging in front of the television with my mother. when i came to bed around
midnight, i read a couple of the short introductory chapters in cornelius
agrippa's _occult philosophy_, the virtues of elements and their compounds.
agrippa is laboring over his inability to distinguish truth from fantasy in
pliny's natural history, but he occasionally hints to have experience which is
plainly untrue. i have so far accepted this as mostly self delusion on his part
rather than deliberate deception. i got to sleep easily about 01:30. this is
rather too early for me, but i managed to stay asleep as i still felt tired. )=
mark littlefield's brother, mitchell, has the odd habit of sleeping with his
horse. it is a large mare, mostly black with some small white markings about the
underside and a diamond blaze on her forehead. they sleep in an open room
carpeted with mattresses, the horse on one side with mitch on the other near its
hooves. today is an uncommon day, mitch rising just before sun up and going for
a ride to exercise the horse.
in the still grayness of morning just before dawn, the horse and rider work
to get in perfect coordination. at first the horse is a little bit out of rhythm
but then comes into balance for a full gallop. running down the empty roadsides
of massachusetts until they come to outskirts of amherst. then mitch decides to
pull up by the community flagpole rather than continue into the town.
the community flagpole beside the roadway is a tampering rectangle built of
rounded yellow sandstone rocks, each an oval half a meter in size. it is a
truncated tetrahedron about three meters tall with a bare metal pole in the
middle. no flag has been on it in months. it had been built during the WPA era
of community work projects during the great depression.
the sun is just coming up when mitch dismounts beside the flagpole. his black
horse rubs the side of her face against the rough sandstone. mitchell considers
going for a longer run this morning before going off to work.
a disturbance on top of the flag base. another horse, a piebald stallion, has
been sleeping up there on the right side of the pole. mitch's black mare,
startled by the unexpected appearance of another horse, runs around the back of
the flagpole where it meets an embankment, and so climbs up to meet the other
animal. the stallion has an irregular patch of red, white and brown colors on
its face, but its body is composed of large patchworks almost like a quilt.
"good morning to you." says a heavy set amish woman who has come up
the path in a pasture next to the flagpole. she is dressed in grey broadcloth in
the plain fashion of her community. "i see your mare have met our sire. he
be guarding his mares."
the stallion on top of the base of the flagpole, smells mitch's mare once,
then leaps off back into it pasture. he has seen a fresh pile of yellow manure
left by one of his mares, which he quickly shoves it with his nose under a
nearby bush. he then runs out of sight himself. apparently dung management is
one of his duties toward his herd.
i seem to wake up here in my mother's house in ohio where i grew up. i debate
about whether to write this dream up in my dream journal but decide that i have
enough time before i have to go lecture today. i go over to the closet and pull
out the components to my old apple 2 computer. i manage to get the various parts
together on my bed but it is awkward to hold the CPU box with the keyboard on my
lap. as the machine beeps and whirs in boot up, i wonder if i should dig around
for a newer computer since the floppy disk format of this machine is not
compatible with the rest of dream journal files. the green and black monitor
starts to show and i decide it is better to get the dream down before i lose
most of its details.
my sister comes to the door and begins saying something to me. i insist that
she leave the room right away and she starts to complain. "please." i
tell her as i push her out the door. "i am concentrating on remembering my
dream before i forget it entirely." i close her out and lock the door.
"i will come get you in a few minutes."
i go back to the bed and reposition myself among the various components of
the apple computer. i begin to type "mark littlefield's brother, mitchell,
has the odd habit of sleeping with his horse..."
=( i woke about 05:40. i had woken earlier, around 04:30 with another dream
about a reunion at my elementary school in ohio and making some adjustments to a
parabolic antenna used for SETI research, but this had a transmitter for
contacting alien class 1 civilizations. it was too early for me to wake enough
to type this dream in and i was not sufficiently awake so i fell back to sleep
into this dream of the horses. i believe mark littlefield does have a brother
who i have never met. i doubt his name is mitchell. i lived for fourteen years
in amherst massachusetts, but there is no flagpole like the one featured here. i
never had my apple 2 computers at my mother's house, but the recursion of trying
to type this dream into a dream computer is somewhat interesting to me. )=
stankuli@gulf.net
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"School Monitor"
August 2000
by Judy
didn't write down yesterday's dreams, which were the first ones I've recalled
in nearly a week, because of my Sabbath thing and needing to pay attention to my
daughter, and now they're slipping away from me, but maybe if I capture this
morning's they'll come back.
It's a traveling scene of some kind, where I've been on something like a
Green Tortoise bus with a lot of people and much of our travel takes place at
night. (Seems I sleep more soundly than I do on a real Tortoise venture, which
is an WL exercise in uncomfortable sleep deprivation for me...). seems we're
traveling mostly through rural parts of northern California, including places I
used to live or visit or extended periods.
at one point we come to somewhere where there is a large computer screen and
I decide I should check my e-mail and web visit sites at least a little.
My daughter, much like her WL nearly 6 year old self, is with me. I decide to
look up an address or URL that sounds quite a bit like the WL life school that
didn't accept her for this school year (they gave me an absurd thing about how
she seemed "rather less mature" than the other first graders, which I
think is utterly ridiculous, and so did every teacher she's had at her past
programs, including arts camp for children up to four years older than she...it
was ME that they didn't want in their family...ah the
snootiness of alternative private schools....).
so I switch from the mail program to the Web browser and when I enter the
URL, I'm looking at this huge and brilliantly animated thing that looks like the
combination of a theater marquee with large bright lights and a car lot...there
are several long rows of shiny cars, all the same attractive shade of sparkly
green, that the design artist has made into...well, this is hard to describe but
they have sort of "masts" or "posts" that are
sculpture-like, out of the same green enamel and material as the cars, coming up
from the back, and not identical...rather like a crowd or a forest of whatever
they are. I admire the artist's technical skill and creativity. My daughter is
enjoying it too, and working on her reading (she is a beginning reader IWL) as I
point the changes put to her.
Then my daughter and I discover that by pointing the cursor arrow, or
something, at the marquee lights (which seem huge, perhaps the size they;d be in
waking life or on a real silver screen, we can make the whole row of lights
change and spell out what we want...we play with this for a bit.
then back to the moving around on the buses or whatever conveyance (this
part is fuzzy.)
the next morning or whatever, we come to a place that is vaguely familiar, it
has large warm pools that have been constructed with big attractive concrete and
tile settings around them...size of a family swimming pool but more like a spa.
I get a feeling this is a school where I visited or worked in Mendocino
County twenty years ago? memory is distant but pleasant...
then I see my mother. My daughter is off doing something with maybe some
other children... my mother seems worried and uptight and keeps alluding to some
piece of business I really must attend to, but is being very euphemistic about
it. I think she's getting at worries about my daughters legally unestablished
paternity and "what if..." problems...but this could also have to do
with her deceased mother (my Grandma Lottie)...who WL also had a lot of intrigue
and confusion about just who her biological parents were and just where and when
she was born...even the continent of her birth is in question!! my housekeeping,
or lack thereof, also seems to be impugned here, though we are not even at home.
(this was also Grandma Lottie's downfall...a creative and hardworking person who
was really messy and disorganized. She died in 1972, when I was in high school,
a little before I moved to the Bay Area.) I'm annoyed with many mother for
making me guess just what she s talking about and for intruding into my life.
Then I'm in a place like the now-demolished Cowell hospital on the UC
Berkeley campus, which is also a place I worked as a young college student, with
mixed success at acting like a grown-up health worker. (the ways my flakiness
got me into problems there is still a matter of some shame for me 25 years
later. It's a beautiful if somewhat cavernous old building from the early part
of this century, with, in this dream at least, a long damp leading downstairs. I
have some business here too, though just what, I can't say. My daughter is still
with me, and I'm trying to find something; it seems like we're part of this tour
with the Tortoise-like unit but have all these nebulous tasks that have to do
with my personal history to reclaim.) EOD as I recall it.....
another association with Cowell Health Center...I'm politically pissed off at
what happened to it! It was a really beautiful building, as I say, and provided
important on-campus care for students, including a dentist, drop-in urgent care,
some in-patient services, a lab, and the women's clinic where I studied, worked
and, um, learned some of my limitations at the time)...and it was destroyed so
that the Business School could have its own new fancy building instead of
sharing Barrows Hall with the Sociology (where I studied some too: I was an
anthropology major) and Political Science departments...Student Health has moved
slightly off campus and is nowhere nearly as comprehensive as it was. What this
says about priorities and about the rise of corporatism over human need, is
illustrative to me of why I think the journey from the 1970s to the 2000s is
overall degenerate. I've gotten stronger and wiser, perhaps, but the world
around me, especially as I see it in Berkeley and various parts of northern
California where I've made my home since graduation, has not....
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"Flat Line"
by Peg
oct 2000
You know, Richard, although I spend a GREAT deal of my waking time using a
computer, computers almost never appear in my dreams. The only instance I can
recall is a recent dream where I was watching data (sleep lab data--my job)
scroll across a computer screen, and it suddenly started to "turn a
corner" instead of marching, as it usually does, in a linear way across the
screen. And then it became even more multi-dimensional as I watched, forming
kind of like 3-D diagrams.
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"Endless Pages"
dream-flow.v002.n010.4
From: Poetica
Subject: Endless Files
Date: Thu, 07 Sep 2000 08:17:33 -0700
I turn on the computer and get a DOS-type screen with rows of filenames
listed on it. I'm trying to get to my files, but each time I try to get a file
up, a new screen comes up which looks just like the first. It feels like turning
endless pages, or walking through endless doorways, pulling a curtain aside, but
finding exactly the same thing behind each doorway.
Comments by Dreamer This is a recurring dream, which seems to happen when I'm
very stressed about study issues - eg an exam or a major paper to hand in.
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"Adventure in Russia"
by Julie
9/10; 10pm-2am
I am in my father's car, in the back seat with my older brother; I am being
taken to a party. I remember that I had left a deck of cards on the trunk, so I
turn back and see that they are still there, despite the fact that we are
driving rather fast. I concentrate on the cards, and they begin obeying my
thoughts. They cut themselves, stand on end, and bend into the wind. I point
this out to my brother, who is both amazed and terrified. I show him what I can
do, just by imaging it happening. After demonstrating my unique abilities, the
cards suddenly grow larger and larger, until all I see is the face on the Jack
of Spades.
We arrive at the house where the party is at, and my family leaves. the house
is an enormous three story mansion in the middle of nowhere, though I know I am
in Russia. There is another house about 300 yards off, at the end of the
driveway.
I don't know any of the people who are at the party, though I do notice that
the host actually breaks into the house. There are about 30 people here, and the
first night I am heading to bed, when I trip on the stairs and loose all four of
my front teeth. It does not hurt, and I barely remember how it happened in the
morning; I am very drunk.
The next morning several trucks drive to the other house, and it is soon
clear that they are "bad people," and we are not welcome in this
house. I happened to spend the night on the second floor with about half the
guests, while the other have had slept on the third floor. We are trapped in the
house, and for some reason the party has divided into two factions, those from
the second floor and those from the third floor. It seemed to me that nobody
realized the true danger that we are in, and how important it is for us to work
together. Some people venture outside and are killed. I know that I have an
ability to control paper, so I cut several pieces of paper into circles and put
them into my pocket. Some of the guests have gone outside to try to escape, so I
run out to rescue them. Because I don't know any of the guests, I have trouble
determining who the "bad guys" are until I notice their guns. I remove
a paper "disk" from my pocket and toss it into the air. It begins
spinning and I control its flight, with some effort. With the disk, I behead the
men with the guns. As the disk slices through their necks, they crumble to the
ground in two pieces. I actually torment the men for a while, delaying their
inevitable deaths. I am having fun. All the witnesses are horrified and
relieved. I feel completely ostracized: no one will talk to me because I have
missing teeth and I am a killer with supernatural powers.
Back in the house, I head up to the third floor, where the guests are
gathered around a very intelligent young man at a computer. It is obvious that
he is planning their escape. I gather courage to talk to him, despite my
disfigurement. I try to explain that I have powers, and that we need to work
together. A girl about my age (22) shuns me, so I attempt to play on her
emotion. I tell her how horrible I felt that I had just killed several people --
the problem is, I do not feel badly at all. She is not impressed, and is
obviously superficially repulsed by my appearance (though I continue to try to
cover the gap in my teeth).
This boy goes outside when it appears safe, in order to assess the grounds. I
see trucks coming, so I go out to warn him. We end up running up some trails
that lead to the top of a mountain. I am running so hard I feel like my lungs
are going to burst, but I am so scared I force myself to keep going. As we near
the top, we notice the trails (caused by tires) become rail lines. It is clear
that the men after us are running an illegal coal mining operation. A train is
coming, so the boy and I hide. A man shows up, and I again kill with my paper
disk. We run down the other side of the mountain, and into a small, run-down
town. Everything is foreign, yet we manage to find the train station, where the
train is just pulling out. We miss the train, and are stuck with a decision:
Each of us only has one 10-ruble note, which is exactly what the next train out
would cost us. However, we do not know where it is going, nor how we will
survive once we get there. Also, all the rest of the guests at the house are
most likely to be murdered, now that the two of us are gone.
The dream ends with the two of us on the train platform, not knowing what to
do.
Comments by Dreamer There are a few things that seem cohesive with my life: I
studied a lot of Russian history in college; I am currently unemployed and have
no money; I am at a crossroads in my life, as I have just graduated from college
and do not have any idea of what I would like to do; I am aware of my ability to
be a capable leader, but I do not feel I have the likeability to accompany the
skill; I also have trouble meeting strangers, and remembering names and faces.
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"Computer Dreams"
by comadre
October, 2000
fragments on awakening. apologies in advance to Dreamshare folks for the
rambling style and the references to events and processes that might not make
sense to anyone else...I can explain further if anyone is interested.
DREAM:I'm with a group of young activists...sense of myself being younger
than I am IWL (WL I'm 44) but that most of these people assembled are still
considerably younger than me, maybe in their late teens and early twenties, very
serious young people but with what amounts to a good sense of humor and purpose.
(feel now I'm not describing this well...these folks just seem very mature and
thoughtful if a bit lacking in years of experience.)
there's some group project that involves people entering their varied
opinions on a discussion...vote or consensus process in lieu of majority vote
coming up? (all this is about political processes tied in with historic peace
and justice organizing that has a "peace church" component and
subsequently became secularized with some culture shift involved...for readers
who are not familiar with the context, I"ll try to explain in further
discussions.)
then...HERE YOU GO RICHARD: computers again!!!!...we're working in something
like a computer lab at the high school, though I think we are in some kind of
rented community center instead of a high school. people have some kind of
emotional, rather than political, stake, in some discussion of goals, tactics,
and philosophy that's going on...waking life this sounds an awful lot like some
issues I've stumbled into in several list serves list serves in which I
participate, especially in the past week.. it also has toes to my own history as
a justice and peace organizer...there have been some internal and group
conflicts over shared and divergent ideals and thoughts and it does, indeed,
have a spiritual component at its core as well as one rooted in the personal and
the social...what do I truly believe?
the results of whatever is being entered into these computers is being
relayed elsewhere...is this something like an election center? whoever or
whatever entity is in charge(group, committee, etc.) is going to have to wade
through a lot of prose to sort out what people think and also make a decision
based on that. I get the feeling that some of these young adults are going to be
left out...there seems to be an ideological split happening. EOD
thoughts on waking life residue.....
man this has been a week. got into it with my significant other, who told me
a week ago he isn't happy in the relationship and our divergent styles of
communication are the issue...still feeling pretty insecure though there have
been efforts to cool this out some...trust between us a bit shaky right now.
my history as a peace and justice organizer in a small, growing, somewhat
tourist-y California town 15 years ago, where indeed AI was "considerably
younger than I am now"...a lot of internal division then too, due to
people's naivete and varying levels of experience.
ISRAEL AND PALESTINE: I'm disgusted for my people at the behavior of
Israel...this is nothing new but this eruptive violence coming on the heels of
Yom Kippur, which I am the only member of my family or origin to observe in any
way. on the way to work a few days ago I screamed at the news on NPR, something
I;m not prone to do ordinarily. and late last night I got involved in some
meta-discussion about all this on another type of activist list where this was
considered off topic and...well, it;s complex but I wound up stepping in and
trying to be a voice of reason where I thought someone was acting inexcusable
and threatening to charge an activist group in support of Palestinians with
"hate crimes" because they spammed him through this list with
announcements about an emergency demonstration. and he kept referring to the
group sending the message as "hey, fuckheads" and then saying
:"be nice", which strikes me as counter-productive and oxymoronic.....
well, I'm Jewish and he's not, and I pointed out, as reasonably as I could,
that "hate crimes" are acts of violence motivated by someone's sex,
sexual orientation, race, national origin, religion, etc....and as a Jew, I
couldn't see where any hate crime had been done to anyone that justified
referring this to a group known for troublemaking against progressives..... do I
ever feel like a voice in the wilderness! and issues like this came up when I
lived in Nevada County long ago, where someone would go on a tear about
something in a peace center meeting and a friend would say to me and/or my
partner, "you know, you;re right, but you're outnumbered."
yesterday I e-mailed a lot, for me, with an organizer in a national project
aimed at countering militarism in the high schools (I applied for the job myself
and then withdrew from the competition when I realized that I was middle-aged,
female, Caucasian, and not a veteran of the military or from a military
myself...really a bit too much of an outsider to the target audience to be what
they're looking for...plus the job moved from here in the Bay Area to
Philadelphia.) I learned the following...that most of the five US Navy sailors
killed on the USS Cole a few days ago were very young and at least one of them
was just out of high school. the whole project is about countering the military
recruiters' rosy picture of the fine adventure and splendid opportunity awaiting
young people who sign on with the armed services...war forecloses the future.
and I feel this dream is about peacemaking...making peace with my past,
making peace with the way people often don't get it. this week, I also made a
request on the childbirth group in which I participate that people of a
right-wing persuasion keep their off-politics to other lists...that this list
was for discussion of unassisted birth and related issues and it was meant to be
inclusive of all kinds of women with all kinds of political philosophies, or
none at all. I think only a few people understood what I was saying and why...
so that's me this week...fed up with Zionism and with the untimely death of
young people and with US aggression masquerading to the US population as
"peacemaking", fed up with hotheads especially on-line, stressed over
my relationship with Dave and our ostensible problems "communicating,"
which I feel have to do with his intolerance of the ways I'm different and the
way I put my thoughts out there, and underneath all this...I think it's all
about spiritual values and trying to get clear on what I think is really the
pearl of truth, or something.
trying to smile underneath this all.
and here I am on line on the Sabbath...well, as I say, it's been an unusual
week and the need to get the word out has superceded my need for spiritual
rest.....
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