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Digital Dreaming Series: (9a)

Selected Dream entries from July 2001 to September 11, 2001

Richard Catlett Wilkerson


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  Wilkerson, Richard Catlett (2002 July). Digital Dreaming Series (9a) Selected Dream entries from July 2001 to September 11, 2001.  Electric Dreams 9(7). 




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Fill out the online survey form on computer dreams:
http://www.dreamgate.com/dream/computers/computerdreams.htm


 

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9a  The Data and Research

 

The Computer Dream Survey  http://www.dreamgate.com/computers   was started in 1999 and we have been collecting dreams about computers, the Internet and digital objects ever since.  Generally the posts requesting dreams are pretty simple. Here is a sample:

 

"Are you having dreams about robots, cyborgs, androids, Borgs, robots or animated machines? Are you having dreams of computers, programs that take on a life of their own, dream experiences with keyboards and monitors, printers or wires? How about dreams of the Internet, surfing, chatting, interacting with others or online bots?

If so, we would like to have your digital dreams for our research project examining the shift in culture from man to machine, organic human to augmented humanoid, analog thinking to digitally mediated virtual reality."

 

However, some requests have been worked in with more speculative and analytic papers, which are listed at the end of this article, and all are available online at the survey site.

 

Listed below are the collections from July of 2001 through September 11, 2001.  The 9-11 is such a strong psychological cleft in the collective consciousness, I thought this date would be an appropriate cut-off, through post 9-11 dreams are also going to be significant and I will publish those in a later article.

 

Note that I am just listing the dreams here, without the extra survey information. The raw data is available upon request, and includes information such as age, sex, political beliefs, how participants spend time off and on the computer and other information, which you can get from looking at the survey.

 

 

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Dreamers Computer Dream = I dreamt I was chatting in the chatroom I usually visit with the boy I usually meet there when I was suddenly with him in our own p2p world like a grassy plain nestled near a dark forest. I dream like I'm watching tv. I see myself disconnected and I was on the computer screen with him. It was so cool and I wasn't shocked in the least...what does this mean?

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Dream Title = chat

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Dream date = resently, a few nights ago

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Dreamers name = Anonymous

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Dreamers Computer Dream = dreams about computers, explaining programs and finding tasks difficult. The dreams are frustrating and I wake up feeling frustrated and upset. The characters in my dreams that I am explaining computers to, and who I am unable to explain them to, are the people I work with. Everything is in colour, but the atmosphere is sticky. The computers are old CTXs and slow. I am in the computer room I work in and I never see anybody I socialise with in these dreams, just my colleagues.

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Dream Title = Frustrating Computer Dreams

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Dream date = For three weeks, practically every night

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Dreamers name = Elizabeth

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Dreamers Computer Dream = Talking to aman with my brother present about which ISP he should use, me being more in tune with the internet that my older brother.

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Dream Title = Internet Dream

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Dream date = A few days ago

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Dreamers name = Anonymous

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Dreamers Computer Dream = I remember sitting at my computer, it seemed all very normal.  For some reason my screensaver came on, even though I was surfing a Dave Matthews Band site.  The screensaver was the blackhole one on the 60s theme of Win98.  At first it was weird, the screen kept falling into the hole the screensaver made.  Everything was pulled into a certain point that moved all around the screen.  I felt my conscience get sucked into the blackhole and I remember reorienting myself onstage at a Dave Matthews concert.  All fear aside I took up a guitar onstage.  I remember pure satisfaction and joy when I started to play and get cheers from the crowd.  Those feeliings multiplied a 100 times over when the whole band came out and we had one huge jam session.  The dream ended as the jam ended.  I woke up wide awake and still felt the satisfaction and joy.  I've never had a dream so complete and vivid.

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Dream Title = Dream Jam

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Dream date = in April 2001

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Dreamers name = Rusty

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Dreamers Computer Dream = I had a dream that I was already sleeping. I woke up and quickly jumped out of bed. I hurried to my computer, which I always leave on, and checked my email. I got a letter from someone special and was extremely happy. It's happened twice and the emails were from different people in each dream. It's weird but it's really the only computer dream I've ever had.

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Dream Title = e-mail dreams

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Dream date = about a month ago

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Dreamers name = Anonymous

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Dreamers Computer Dream = When i had this dream I was awake , it was like "the Matrix" last scene the green numbers and black background was all around me ...it seemed like a drem because was too real to be true my roommate had the same visions

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Dream Title = The Matrix

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Dream date = 02/20001

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Dreamers name = Anonymous

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Dreamers Computer Dream =     I am a lucid dreamer, and have had many dreams that I'm in a video game. I consider this like a computer dream because for all I know I could have been on CD rom in the game. Usually it's just like a normal life situation with real people and settings, but my goals are to avoid people chasing me, getting attacked by large bugs, or just to survive.

     One example would be when I drempt I was in this lady's house. It was a two story home and I was in the bedroom at the time. It was sort of old fashioned with pale pink coloring. I was trying to hide from the members of the house, particularly the mom and trying to get out. I was afraid of being caught, not necessarily of being there but because large wasps (bigger than my head buzzing outside the window) and scary plants (which were leafy, but the leaves were as rigid and sharp as razors) were outside. I escaped through a window on the second floor to join 3 other players.

     We had to avoid being stung, carnivorous plants and things. Our goal was to reach either the river to take us to freedom and the next level or to reach the safety of this large rock shrine surrounded by large stone tiling in a big circle and around that about a 3 foot stone wall. It was all light brown stone with deep carvings of things. This was like the escape, if we reached it, it would end the game. We all reached the river, but they were swept off struggling in the tides and I got scared and climbed to shore.

     More people after me still, the daughters of the house found me (the one had dark brown hair and in a white flowing night gown and younger than myself), so I started running to the stone monument. The hard part was that it turned into a giant sort of maze, not big around me, but I had to run along a certain path in order to get it to work and it kept turning and spinning on me. I was watching myself and her in a third person view at this time. The girl was as confused as I was and she was very upset with my progress of course. I finally reached the center and woke up.

     I think a lot of these types had to do with playing Maniac Mansion on Nintendo. The game was fun and challenging but it was scary at the time too. But now I equated my life with how I felt playing that game.

     Sometimes I dream I'm in my own house and I have to avoid obstacles for points, or obviously, if I get killed I only have so many lives, but my goal is to live and get the heck OUT of the game. So usually I have to run down the street to a certain point, but it's dificult to get there.

     I have a lot of dreams that I'm in a war too, and I have to survive and get rid of the enemy, but it seems to go in stages, one I was in a trench and the next I had to clear a train of enemies so I could ride to another area and that's pretty scary. That's usually only after I play Delta Force Land Warrior too many times.

     I hate these dreams though, I wake up and they seem so pointless, like I feel very unocomplished and wish I had a deeper more meaningful dream. Since the time of these dreams I have been on my own and going to College for Massage Therapy and so I must have overcome some of those obstacles my dream suggested.

 

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Dream Title = My Life Is A Game

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Dream date = I'd say it's been about a year since the last one

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Dreamers name = Anonymous

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Dreamers Computer Dream = A dream about computers? Or how about a dream of future films. Our movies today, how dramatic. Tomorrow our movies what will they be displaying then? The screen locks the mind, the thoughts. Technology advancements will show concentration, complete. A movie is a real dream. Its when you want to know how its all going to turn out. A movie displays yourself, all movies display what we want, what we are thinking. How about a movie from all of us, a pure movie of the mind, knowledge of One. What is this knowledge, it is always this anwser. You want to see a movie where everything is true to the exact point to where we are today, you will see this movie, after death. After complete where-abouts of yourself. Where are you? Its in the movie. Who is this 'love'? Its in the movie. Only watch the movie.

 

The dream was one only in the future. It was a high tec, HIGH CONCENTRATED film. Nothing else existed but the truth of our movie. Our movie was of today, of our complete reality, our complete love.

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Dream Title = This Was My Dream

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Dream date = 7-30-01

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Dreamers name = Anonymous

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Dreamers Computer Dream = i dreamt somebody was emailing very

gross and discusting emails over the internet!! i couldn't stop them... one day they found out where i lived and murdered me

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Dream Title = scary dream

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Dream date = last night

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Dreamers name = Anonymous

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Dreamers Computer Dream = In my dreams, everything is in HTML code, there are no images except of this code, and there is no screen, it seems to be floating around me (in this case, "me" is just my consciousness, I dont actually see myself), on a white surface like there is nothing else behind it, the code comes in different colours: blue, light blue, yellow, pink, red, green, but most of it is dark blue. in my dream I seem to know that what Im seeing is the design of the page I´ve been working on, and Im also making the code somehow...

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Dream Title = suenhodeagua

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Dream date = all july 2001,  alsmot daily

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Dreamers name = angelica

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Dreamers Computer Dream = i was surfing the net and then everything become orange (color) then a flower bloomed from the monitor...

and then it wrote u are hacked... hahaha.. ( laughing)

 this was really a dream..

 

but sometimes i really do not understand that it was really happenning or not!!

 

for example while chatting, sometimes i read something and continue on that issue but the day after when i look at the history part there is nothing about that issue!!!

 

i really do not understand..

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Dream Title = orange hack

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Dream date = 5 months ago

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Dreamers name = E.angel

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Dreamers Computer Dream = once i was dreaming that i talk on ICQ with a friend of mine. i definitely remember some of the phrases which are of no significance, though. just a small talk. this and that. been there done that. but then suddenly i sat in my bed, fully awake, and stared into the black monitor of my computer and thought "how the HELL can i chat on ICQ when my comp is switched off?" and it happened three or for times in one night. i realized i dreamed the whole thing about ICQ but hell it was so GODDANM real!

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Dream Title = talk on ICQ

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Dream date = several times

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Dreamers name = NIque

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Dreamers Computer Dream = I dreamed I was sitting at my computer and flashes of light like a ligtening bolt went across the screen.

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Dream Title = Lightening

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Dream date = month ago  Tue, 7 Aug 2001 15:07:39 -0400 (EDT)

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Dreamers name = Anonymous

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Dreamers Computer Dream = A while ago when I used to play counterstrike alot and then go to bed. I had a dream about playing the computer game. I thought that was pretty funny... At least it wasnt as if i was in the game and it wasnt scary...

 

Um.. dont remember any details really...

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Dream Title = Counterstrike

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Dream date = A while ago....

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Dreamers name = BenJamer

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Dreamers Computer Dream = The dream started out and I was at my old house, and my mom was like "Hank is missing" (hank is my brother).  And she pointed to like, the backyard and it was like that's where he had been taken or something.  So then all of a sudden he was back home and we were in our house that we live in now, but he wouldn't tell us where he had been.  Then, I saw the place that Hank and a lot of other kids got taken to.  It was very bright.  (i didn't actually GO to the place, i just saw it in my mind in the dream or something) So then, Hank is missing again and I somehow knew of this message board where these people hung out and they were the people who knew about the place where the kids went.  So i logged onto the message board and I started reading some of the messages to try to find out what was going on and then I got booted off the message board (haha).  So then I was looking around my desk and i saw light blue floppy disks that had the label in the bottom !

right hand corner.  Everything in my room was normal except for the floppies and well, getting booted from the message board was kind of odd, too.  Then, after going to the bathroom to pee and drink some water (in my dream), I woke up.  I was very very very scared when I woke up and I was worried someone was in my room and going to kill me.  :\

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Dream Title = my brother is missing

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Dream date = a couple of days ago  Thu, 9 Aug 2001 21

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Dreamers name = Anonymous

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Dreamers Computer Dream = my dream was with an older computer.

i had  flimed the switch on the moniter and an image of Jesus appeard

to me. it seems as if he tried to converse with me. he tried to connect me with a dead loved one i belive. any idea what this means?

-freaked out

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Dream Title = the man upstairs

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Dream date = two nights ago - Fri, 10 Aug 2001

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Dreamers name = Anonymous

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Dreamers Computer Dream = I had a dream about the future of mankind.  It was very interesting.  The dream showed that computers would completely replace us someday.  We would become obsolete.  The computers could do everything we do, even reproduce.  The dream was not disturbing, but it made sense in a weird way.  I woke up wondering if the world would be more peaceful.Nation

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Dream Title = Nation of Machinnes

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Dream date = about a year ago -2001

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Dreamers name = nonymous

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Dreamers Computer Dream = I dreamed I was using a computer to change the DNA inside an embryo.  I felt very powerful because I knew how to make the embryo code for a mermaid.  In the dream, my fiance was begging me not to do it.

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Dream Title = Genetic manipulation: mermaid

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Dream date = January 2001

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Dreamers name = Anonymous

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Dreamers Computer Dream = I dream about the type of chat I do: graphical program called palace.  In  my real 'online' avatar collection, I use mermaids.  In my dreams, I'm really in this universe as a mermaid. I change colors and shapes but I always have a tail.  In the dreams, I don't know the ppl I chat with, and don't recall too clearly what we talk about. I'm usually just admiring my own form so much that I don't notice the other  "avatars" or people.  Everything else seems "normal" except that I know I am not really a mermaid.  In the real chat program, everything is in 2-D, flat.  In the dream, everything is 100% real, most of all, my actual mermaid body.

I swim around in a swirl of shapes and colors, and am just plain fascinated  with the way I can move.  I've been chatting in palace as a mermaid now for years,  and dreaming that it's real seems  required.  heheheh

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Dream Title = Digital mermaid

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Dream date = recurring, mostly when I can't really chat.

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Dreamers name = Anonymous

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Dreamers Computer Dream = I had a dream about just waking up in the middle of the night in my bed, and their right in my face was a monitor screen with a blue border just hovering just above my waist. On the screen was white words and symbols that were shooting down the screen like in the matrix but for some strange reason I my mind felt as though it knew what it was displaying and the information was directed right to me.

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Dream Title = Hovering Screen

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Dream date = 9 months ago

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Dreamers name = Poysen

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Dreamers Computer Dream = it was a dream whioch contained a various amount of boys which i hav fancied in the past

along wiv the guy i'm currently besotted wiv. the guy i currently fancy i met on a school residential bout a month ago we did kiss and share beds and i miss him and hav bin thinking about him sinsce the residential.i havn't been intouch with this guy because he lives in america and i live in,london.

however

he was in my dream last night and he was in bed with me and the other guys  that i had previously fancied were sitting in the same hotel room where me and i guy i currently like were in bed together and they weren't saying or doing anything just sitting there surrounding me and the guy i was in bed with whilst we were kissing passionatelt

 

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Dream Title = romance being watched over

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Dream date = yesterday 16/08/01

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Dreamers name = suki

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Dreamers Computer Dream = Someday I dream about I was in future 25 years ahead in a school. I was pushed to that time or was beeing sleeping till there.

Simple building, all natural, with wooden chair and desks, but we used

watches with microprocessor and a polymer pad that simulates a desktop

and monitor. It rolls in watch as a button when we close it.

 

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Dream Title = 25 years in future with a watch computer

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Dream date = in beginning of this year maybe february

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Dreamers name = Ayorius

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Dreamers Computer Dream = I once dreamed I was in a game of StarCraft. I still controlled the game but as a general would his troops, issuing orders to individuals. We were Protoss, or at least they were. I'm not certain what I was to them, an entity to be obeyed unquestionably. We won the battle against the Zerg.

Recalling the scenario, they had the high ground, an excellent tachtical advantage. They also outnumbered us, three broods to my one army.

Perhaps it's because my almost omnipotent role, being able to look at the battle from a far and zoom in on individual troops, that won us the battle.

I don't recall 'feeling' anything. Just a sence that I must win and loose as little as possible.

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Dream Title = StarCraft

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Dream date = Midday, a years ago.

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Dreamers name = Anonymous

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Dreamers Computer Dream =      As a fragment of a larger dream, I picked up a TV remote control.  I noticed a small video screen at the top, like a calculator.  I pushed one of the buttons and the remote unfolded into a small computer, with arms and sections of keyboard and screen sliding out from the back.  I realized that some unidentified secret admirer (sort of a stalker, but not really scary) had come into my apartment and modified the remote into a computer.  I was annoyed that my space had been invaded, yet excited about the remote/computer, because it was really a nifty little gadget.  Japanese anime-porn began scrolling across the screen, which I found a little distasteful, since my stalker had put it there, yet it was titillating, too.

    

 

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Dream Title = Remote Control/Computer

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Dream date = about  4 months ago

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Dreamers name = Noel

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Dreamers Computer Dream = Am dreaming that I am trying to go to sleep but can't until I shut down the computer.  It keeps telling me that the system is busy and can't end task/shut down. I "push any key" to return and am very very tired and want to go to sleep....but it never will let me shut it down.

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Dream Title = can't log off

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Dream date = month or so ago...

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Dreamers name = kim

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Dreamers Computer Dream = The dream consisted of me attempting to program a glass of milk in a reality form. My methods of doing this were not clear. All I remember pondering about the program was would the milk return a value or be a void() function. I woke up screaming and in tears and sweat.

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Dream Title = void or return

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Dream date = around 3 years ago

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Dreamers name = Anonymous

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Dreamers Computer Dream = dear sir

 

   i have a big dream to learn c as a language i don't know any programing language i would like to learn the c language i tried to learn it i bought the visual c++ i find explain the language in english a little hard for me but i tried but i failed can u help me i need need need very much to learn this programing language help me please

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Dream Title = c/c++ visual c++

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Dream date = a long time

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Dreamers name = hassan

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Dreamers Computer Dream = I was sucked inside the monitor.I went into the molecular level and traveled out into space,among the stars.i couldnt find my star again. I was lost in space,drifting.

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Dream Title = the computer sucks

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Dream date = after eating a peyote button last night

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Dreamers name = Anonymous

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Dreamers Computer Dream = I dreamt that I was talking to "my grandfather" on tha computer.  And he spoke in native american language, he spoke in oglala lakota.  Which is not the tribe that we are from, and I dont speak it, but I understood what he was saying to me though. He told me in lakota to beware of certain white people.

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Dream Title = lakota

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Dream date = about a month ago

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Dreamers name = Anonymous

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Dreamers Computer Dream = I recently dreamt that I was swiming underwater in a very dark,remote lake.I was swiming alone in the very early hours of the A.M. I kept seeming to notice some sort of illumination coming from deeper sections of the lake.As I would swim deeper in the lake to investigate I would absolutely loose my sense of direction,not knowing if I were going up, or down?I began to panic thinking I could very possibly drown. In my hysterical,confused state I began to swim towards a flourescent,soft light.As i eventually arrived at the light I discovered that the face of Yoda from STAR WARS on a monitor.Yoda was trying to explain to me the conection between the ancient sumarians and aliens????

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Dream Title = union-carbide reunion

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Dream date = 9-4-01  {9:45 A.M.}

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Dreamers name = Phil Van fleet

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Dreamers Computer Dream = "Before I went to sleep I had thoughts about the waste of time sitting at the computer during graduate school."  I dreamt that I was at my computer working on my master's thesis and I lost a very important piece of work, chapter 6.  This chapter being the synthesis of all my research.  I was in a total panic.  I kept searching in different places and it would not come up.  Suddenly my screen turned into this panoramic view of a mountain and valley.  I entered the screen.  I was somewhere in Europe and in another time.  I headed toward town.  I was on a dusty dirt road.  I knew this place!  I became excited, the learning center was here!  I began to run down the street asking the citizens "Where is the learning center?"  I came upon the learning center, which had giant red-clay pillars out in front.

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Dream Title = Learning Center

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Dream date = 1993

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Dreamers name = DreamTime

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Dreamers Computer Dream = I had a dream that I walked in to my boyfriends office and saw a scripture from the Bible in big bold flashing letters on his Desk Top.  It said 1st Corinthians ch.6. 

 

When I woke up I looked up the scripture and it seemed to be bit of advise for some issues that were going on at that time in real life.

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Dream Title = Flashing Message

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Dream date = one month ago.

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Dreamers name = Josie

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Dreamers Computer Dream = I can hear high pitched frequencies, mind you, I don't dream, haven't for years (they say it's dangerous, and can make you schizophrenic or some other such nonsense). I do however sometimes have a sort of daydream when I'm waking up, my imagination sort of run's away with itself (damn it for having an affair with itself!!) and I have the closest thing to a dream as I can get. So, the reason I told you I can hear high pitched frequencies. One night I'd gone to bed and left my PC on, well, later that night I woke up, and as I was waking up my little not a dream occurred. I was in a building and I heard this piercing sound, but no matter how well I covered my ears I could still hear it. It was MADDENING, and nothing could make it stop. The building was grey and dark, and there wasn't another soul for miles. A few of the windows were broken I think, and I began to run. The noise was an alarm of some sort, something of a warning. It had something to do wit!

h computers, IN the not a dream. Something about crashing, and their were computers in an office that I ran by. I came completely out of it when my feet slipped on the railing and i fell hard on my behind. Note, I have a VERY strong imagination! If I imagine falling, or flying, or moving my body will jerk, violently sometimes. It's even happened during day-dreams at school. If I imagine say...punching someone (I box), my arm will jerk. So I woke up and the noise was coming from computer. I'd never noticed it before since I usually have music playing when I'm at my PC. I just thought it was interesting. I'd heard of people dreaming their alarm clock was a phone or something else, but I didn't think this would happen in something that wasn't even a dream. ::shrugs:: Perhaps not dreaming does something to oneself after all.

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Dream Title = The not a dream dream

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Dream date = Um...a long time ago

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Dreamers name = Amberlay

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Dreamers Computer Dream = I dream that my consciousness is like an operating system and applications (like Word, Excel, etc., are like states of mind or ways of dealing with outer reality.  Most people use Microsoft Word but there are many programs available to use.  They are ways of experiencing the world.

 

Comments:  I have variations of this dream frequently.

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Dream Title = Mind As Operating System

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Dream date = 2001

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Dreamers Computer Dream = I often dream about downloading & saving files, but in dreams, such thingsare often difficult...

 

Not quite nightmares, but close...

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Dream Title = File: Frustration

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Dream date = often

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Dreamers name = Anonymous

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Please send in computer dreams and keep the digital dreaming research project going. rcwilk@dreamgate.com

OR use the survey form:

http://www.dreamgate.com/dream/computers/computerdreams.htm

Other articles:

Wilkerson, Richard Catlett (1999 August). Research Request: Computer's in Dreams : Pre and Post Internet Perceptions. Electric Dreams & Part I Pre-Net Electric Dreams 6(8). Retrieved October 30, 2000 from Electric Dreams on the World Wide Web: http://members.telocity.com/rcw666/ed-articles/richard_wilkerson_1999_aug_computers_in_dreams.htm

Wilkerson, Richard Catlett (2000 March). Digital Dreams: The changing (inter)face of dreams in the twenty-first century. Electric Dreams 7(3). Retrieved October 30, 2000 from Electric Dreams on the World Wide Web: http://members.telocity.com/rcw666/ed-articles/richard_wilkerson_2000_mar_computer-dreams1.htm

Wilkerson, Richard Catlett (2000 July). Digital Dreaming Series: Computer Dreams II : The changing (inter)face of dream texts. Electric Dreams 7(7). Retrieved October 30, 2000 from Electric Dreams on the World Wide Web: http://members.telocity.com/rcw666/ed-articles/richard_wilkerson_2000_july_computer-dreams2.htm

Wilkerson, Richard Catlett (2000 November). Digital Dreaming Series: Computer Dreams III :: The Digital Shift in Culture. Electric Dreams 7(11). Retrieved October 30, 2000 from Electric Dreams on the World Wide Web: http://members.telocity.com/rcw666/ed-articles/richard_wilkerson_2000_nov_computer-dreams3.htm

Wilkerson, Richard Catlett (2001 January). Digital Dreaming Series: Computer Dreams IV :: Dream Code and Decoded Flows. Electric Dreams 8(1). Retrieved December 31, 2000 from Electric Dreams on the World Wide Web: http://members.telocity.com/rcw666/ed-articles/richard_wilkerson_2001_jan_computer-dreams4.htm

Wilkerson, Richard Catlett (2001 May). Digital Dreaming Series: Computer Dreams V :: Emergence of Digital Imagery in Analog Dreamers. Electric Dreams 8(5). Retrieved May 1, 2001 from Electric Dreams on the World Wide Web: http://members.telocity.com/rcw666/ed-articles/richard_wilkerson_2001_may_computer-dreams5.htm

Wilkerson, Richard Catlett (2001 June). Digital Dreaming Series: Computer Dreams VI  ::  Digital Dreaming: Emergence or Replacement Imagery? Electric Dreams 8(6). Retrieved July 7, 2001 from Electric Dreams on the World Wide Web:
http://members.telocity.com/rcw666/ed-articles/richard_wilkerson_2001_june_computer-dreams6.htm

Wilkerson, Richard Catlett (2001 August). Digital Dreaming Series: Digital Dreaming Research Project: Project Goals and Considerations. Electric Dreams 8(9). Retrieved August 26, 2001 from Electric Dreams on the World Wide Web:
http://members.telocity.com/rcw666/ed-articles/richard_wilkerson_2001_aug_computer-dreams7a.htm

Wilkerson, Richard Catlett (2001 August). Digital Dreaming Series: (7b) Digital Dreams from March 2001 through April 2001.  Electric Dreams 8(9). Retrieved August 26, 2001 from Electric Dreams on the World Wide Web: 
http://members.telocity.com/rcw666/ed-articles/richard_wilkerson_2001_aug_computer-dreams7b.htm