Ok, so you've learned to have lucid dreams. Want to have
more? In LDE 29 Harry Bosma shared with us some information
about his on-line lucidity course "THE MORE LUCID DREAMS
PROJECT". For more information on this project and others you
can contact Harry through his website at www.alquinte.com.
(Incidentally, I participated in this project and enjoyed it
very much. And yes, I did get more lucid dreams!)
This is a short report on the More Lucid Dreams project.
During five weeks, starting on July 26th 2003, an online group
worked at getting more lucid dreams. As the members of the
group chose to submit many dreams, this also became a unique
dream sharing experience. We witnessed many interesting psi
dreams in the group, especially mutual dreaming. However, here
I will only report about the main aim of the group: getting
more lucid dreams.
Sometimes it seems there is more interest in lucid dreaming
than in, for example, dream interpretation. Ever since the
invention of the World Wide Web, there have been web pages
about lucid dreaming. The Usenet discussion group alt.dreams
had so many topics about lucid dreaming, that the
alt.dreams.lucid group had to be created. After Usenet, email
and web discussion groups became popular. Again, lucid
dreaming showed up amazingly often.
What always surprised me is that although interest is high,
many complain that it is hard to get lucid dreams. As I didn't
mind getting more lucid dreams myself, I decided to organize
an online group aimed at getting more lucid dreams.
Small Steps Approach
The approach I used is based on several ideas:
The first one is that people generally have little time,
need their sleep, and prefer simple exercises above difficult
ones. For these reasons I used Castaneda's hand gazing as the
basic exercise. Other suggested exercises also needed minimal
time, and could be easily integrated into the daily
The second idea is that it always helps to break a
difficult task up into various smaller objectives. There are
many definitions of lucid dreaming. I used the most basic one,
being that one is aware of the dream. Everything else I
presented as separate indications of special dreams.
Additionally, I also offered two types of pre-lucid dreams. As
a result, the chance of being able to score a dream as special
in some way or another, was fairly high. After five weeks of
dreams, this also gave some insight into whether indications
of special dreams are related to awareness of the dream.
The third idea is that it helps to combine lucid dreaming
with more awareness during the day. It makes no sense to
strive for more awareness during dreams, while still running
on automatic pilot during the day. This fits nicely together
with the first point of integrating lucid dreaming with the
usual day routine in a way that doesn't require extra time.
For various reasons I asked potential participants to
incubate a dream. One thing I hoped to discover was if there
could be certain resistances against lucid dreaming. That
didn't seem to be the case, so I didn't pay much attention to
it during the project.
I wanted 20-25 members for the group. There were 22.
However, two never showed up, two others dropped out early.
The project ran in the middle of summer, so it happened that
some members disappeared for a week or so due to
Almost all of the incubated dreams showed an optimistic
view of the project. Quite a few had an incubated dream that
was lucid. I have to add that many members of the first group
were experienced with lucid dreaming. The group was supposed
to be for both novice lucid dreamers and somewhat experienced
lucid dreamers, but absolute novices turned out to be in a
As part of the program, I encouraged members to submit
dreams, lucid or not. The group knew how to take a hint, and
submitted some 365 dreams in five weeks time. Including
comments on the dreams and other discussions, this means that
keeping up with the group must have been challenging. I'd
considered slowing the group down at some point, but got the
impression that most members had made the decision that they
wanted to do it this way.
From the 365 dreams, a total of 145 were lucid. A few
strong lucid dreamers in the group pulled up the average, but
even so it still is an impressive number.
As I'm going to host a second group, I only want to give a
few general conclusions. Besides, the group is too small to
discover anything about, for example, the effectiveness of
At the end of the five weeks I asked group members to fill
in an evaluation form. A large majority of the participants
spent a lot of time on the project. Looking at this large sub
group, there were a few who were already having lucid dreams
often. They didn't see any improvement in frequency, but
appreciated how they learned to do more with their lucid
dreams. The not so frequent lucid dreamers did almost all
report an increase in the number of lucid dreams. The member
who was less satisfied about the number of lucid dreams during
the project, really did quite well on her own. It just
happened that this first group attracted many people who had
had lucid dreams before.
Quite a few members remarked that the group did wonders for
their dream recall. That may be true, but I also noted that
not everyone seemed to have that luck. Which is why I will
continue to advise potential members of the second group to
work on their dream recall.
After this first group I wonder whether there is a
correlation between dream recall and lucid dreams. Dreamers
who submitted more or longer dreams, seem to have a higher
percentage of lucid dreams. There were a few exceptions to
that rule, and with the group being small, it's hard to say
whether this means anything.
As a last observation, I was impressed by the stability of
the dream environment of some of the dreamers, especially the
dreamers who submitted many lucid dreams. I've read authors
who say one starts with awareness, then works on stability.
Somehow I got the idea that awareness and stability may be two
sides of the same coin.
From the beginning I've wanted to do two groups. The second
group should start on November 15th. I'm looking forward to
hosting the second group, and to comparing the results. I
haven't yet written about some of the special exercises, so as
not to spoil the surprise for members who also read LDE. I
hope to write about these special exercises in a next issue.
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